cheryl: i'm not so sure that mitt romney has the best shot here in ohio. if you look back at president barack obama versus john mccain, it was barack, four years ago. not that much as changed in the state of ohio despite the fact that john cage has taken over. >> well, i think romney has a tough road, and unless he wins ohio he almost mathematically cannot become president. he is right that unemployment, it's down in large measure because the president help save the auto industry and 35,000 jobs. fundamentally what is going on in ohio is what is going on another battleground states which is that mitt romney is a fundamentally flawed candidate. the middle class voters -- cheryl: how does he fought? >> rejecting because his basic assumption that tax cuts for the very wealthy will somehow trickle down to the middle-class . people are not buying it. going to create 12 million jobs without telling anybody how he's going to do it at the same time turns around and says there is almost half of the country that thinks he should not be president. cheryl: he has give